EnclavedMicrostate在2022-10-10~2022-10-16的言论

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865: Has there ever been a proven case of arranged war in history?, submitted on 2022-10-10 07:40:07+08:00.

—– 865.1 —–2022-10-10 16:01:36+08:00:

Bigger correction to add to /u/Trevor_Culley’s – it was 300 each, with 2 Argives surviving and 1 Spartan, and neither side could decide who won so they fought a full-sized battle anyway.

866: incredibly idiotic. isn’t even a burger. covered in disgusting amounts of cheese. I’m ashamed to say that I would absolutely eat this and succumb to whatever ailment it brings., submitted on 2022-10-10 08:50:39+08:00.

—– 866.1 —–2022-10-10 23:24:51+08:00:

IDK, as long as there was less of it I’d eat it. Proportions are fine, total size is a big oof.

867: What does this say, submitted on 2022-10-10 12:43:47+08:00.

—– 867.1 —–2022-10-10 16:21:39+08:00:

It’s a eulogy of Mao Zedong:

Founding Leader

Mao Zedong (1893-1976), courtesy name Runzhi, native of Shaoshan in Hunan. A great leader of the Chinese people, Marxist, revolutionary of the unpropertied classes, statesman, strategist, theorist. Principal founder and leader of the Communist Party of China, the People’s Liberation Army of China, and the People’s Republic of China.

868: How did the weaker goeth to the potte?, submitted on 2022-10-10 14:44:32+08:00.

—– 868.1 —–2022-10-10 16:13:41+08:00:

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869: Is there evidence for the biblical exodus and more specifically is the Admonitions of Ipuwer evidence of the exodus?, submitted on 2022-10-10 15:02:28+08:00.

—– 869.1 —–2022-10-10 16:13:36+08:00:

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870: Mindless Monday, 10 October 2022, submitted on 2022-10-10 19:00:09+08:00.

—– 870.1 —–2022-10-12 04:57:49+08:00:

Obviously, the genocidal action must take a substantial toll on its target.

Define ‘substantial’, because wherever you draw the line, someone will find some event that is just shy and ask why that arbitrarily doesn’t count.

Or rather, the key thing is that genocide is about intentions and not about scope.

It’s not enough to prove that there have been cases of forced sterilization because, guess what, there’s been cases of forced sterilizations of Han women too, China is shitty to all of its people.

Well, even beyond the sterilisations, the evidence for specific targeting of Uighurs and Kazakhs (as the principal representatives of Turkic Muslim groups) is extremely clear: there has been overt settlement of Han Chinese people in Xinjiang to out-populate the indigenous population, only Turkic-speakers and Muslims have been placed in concentration camps, there is active suppression of non-Mandarin languages and Islam, including the destruction of mosques, etc. It’s not like China is also trying to force Han Chinese people to drop Mandarin or blowing up Confucian sites at the same time that it’s suppressing Uighur and Kazakh and demolishing mosques.

But on the sterilisation point, that there may be individual sterilisations of Han women does not change the broad trend, that being antinatalism towards Uighurs and Kazakhs and pronatalism towards Han women, in which reproductive autonomy is curtailed in general, but in distinct ways with different populations, towards ends that are unavoidably eugenicist in nature.

871: Moderator of an unnamed “anti-racist subreddit” takes to /r/ModSupport to demand the admins explain their “draconian” and “unjustifiable” removal of a mod for violating a week-old rule. Shockingly, the story falls apart with the bombshell revelation of (checks notes) the subreddit’s name., submitted on 2022-10-11 04:48:15+08:00.

—– 871.1 —–2022-10-11 16:08:52+08:00:

Was it ever good? I can only ever remember it being a supremacist sub.

872: Voluntarist vs Structuralist, submitted on 2022-10-11 13:35:53+08:00.

—– 872.1 —–2022-10-11 14:31:21+08:00:

Your previous post was removed because it was explicitly soliciting for help with homework, which is, to put it simply, a bit ethically dubious.

873: How did New Age and offshoot movement become so obsessed with (often pseudo-)“Native American” culture?, submitted on 2022-10-11 21:00:03+08:00.

—– 873.1 —–2022-10-11 23:58:36+08:00:

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874: Is there a good english language book about the Taiping Rebellion?, submitted on 2022-10-12 09:02:07+08:00.

—– 874.1 —–2022-10-12 14:15:01+08:00:

So, there is actually a lot of English-language scholarship on the Taiping both in absolute terms and in contextual – compared to basically any other 20-year period in Chinese history (at least before the 20th century), it is incredibly well-studied in many respects. However only a portion of that makes it out into published monograph form, rather than languishing as unpublished doctoral theses or theoretically accessible but often obscure journal articles. And then only a portion of that is general overview and/or narrative history rather than specialist studies aimed at a broadly academic readership. But, not to fear – it’s why I’m here.

In terms of narrative histories, there are four main options to consider: Franz Michael and Chung-li Chang’s The Taiping Rebellion, Volume I (1966), Jen Yu-Wen’s The Taiping Revolutionary Movement (1973), Jonathan Spence’s God’s Chinese Son (1996), and Stephen R. Platt’s Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom (2012).

Michael and Chang’s book isn’t as problematic as one might fear from its considerable age. Taiping scholarship has only really gone through perhaps one noticeable paradigm shift since then, focussed more or less entirely on the framing and interpretation of Taiping Christianity, which is very important obviously but which I don’t think fundamentally undermines Michael and Chang’s narrative. In a broader sense however, the late 80s onwards also saw a shift towards much greater recognition of ethnic dynamics in the Qing period writ large, and that’s something that is especially noticeable by its absence in the older work.

Jen’s book is prohibitively expensive, a bit dry, and overtly moralising, but it is also the most comprehensive chronology in English, and critically it gives coverage to a number of side theatres that most narratives disregard. This is what you read, if you have every intention of becoming a Taiping specialist. I bring this one up, however, because this book had a significant impact on the next two, which explicitly, if briefly, note that they are only going to offer a partial coverage, precisely because the complete chronology had already been offered by Jen back in the 70s.

Spence’s book puts religion at the front and centre of the Taiping movement, and primarily follows the perspective of Hong Xiuquan. The result of this is a fascinating narrative that explains how Hong Xiuquan’s belief system emerged and in turn took hold within the religious environment of mid-19th century south China. However, these emphases also serve as its limitations: after covering the coups and purges of 1856 that gutted the Taiping leadership for the remainder of the decade, Spence’s coverage of the wider Taiping conflict becomes somewhat scattershot as he comes to focus mostly on Hong Xiuquan himself and his religious writings while isolated in his royal palace. The climactic phase of the conflict thus lies largely undiscussed, or at least very impressionistically.

Platt’s book effectively picks up where Spence leaves off, and heretical as it may be among Sinologists for me to say this, his book manages to be even better written. Platt’s approach is informed quite a bit by the field of global history, and his Taiping War is thus not only situated in the context of the Qing Empire, but also the wider diplomatic and commercial environment of the Pacific amidst the Second Opium War and the American Civil War. That does not mean he is writing a massive comparative history, but rather that connectedness and connectivity is given an extremely prominent role, alongside the largely domestic narrative covering the Taiping reform attempts under Hong Rengan, and the Qing counteroffensive campaigns under Zeng Guofan. But Platt’s narrative is not totally comprehensive: when it comes to the war’s ‘eastern theatre’, he focusses almost exclusively on Jiangsu with very little mention of the campaigning in Zhejiang, amid a general sidelining of the French from the narrative (albeit likely for linguistic reasons); he also, as noted, chooses to start things in medias res in 1859, and while he does an extremely good job bringing the reader up to speed on what is relevant, one may ask whether something might be lost in not considering longer-term continuities within the Heavenly Kingdom.

I would suggest that if you’re trying to understand the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom as a religious phenomenon, then read Spence. If you’re trying to understand the Taiping War as an event in the context of wider global history, then read Platt. If you’re trying to get a start-to-finish narrative, read both.

I’ll also throw up some of the more specialist pieces if you want to dig into some more specific aspects:

  • Tobie Meyer-Fong, What Remains (2013) – A harrowing work discussing the civilian experience and commemoration of the Taiping War.

  • Carl Kilcourse, Taiping Theology (2017) – Pretty self-explanatory.

  • Chuck Wooldridge, City of Virtues (2016) – Not about the Taiping as such, but rather a history of Nanjing and its place in literary space, with one chapter devoted to the Taiping years and another to the post-Taiping reconstruction.

  • Prosper Giquel, Stephen Leibo, A Journal of the Chinese Civil War, 1864 (1985) – A translation with commentary of one of the journals of the French naval officer Prosper Giquel, who organised and occasionally commanded the Franco-Chinese Corps of Zhejiang between 1862 and 1864. It’s preceded by a brisk but still reasonably detailed narrative history of the Franco-Chinese Corps and its antecedents, which serves as one of the only English-language writings on French involvement in the Taiping conflict.

875: What were some of the specific reforms that Japan and China undertook in their attempts to modernize during the 19th and 20th century?, submitted on 2022-10-12 12:07:27+08:00.

—– 875.1 —–2022-10-12 13:30:39+08:00:

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876: Effectiveness of the Varangian guard. (Hardrada’s veteran unit), submitted on 2022-10-12 20:30:53+08:00.

—– 876.1 —–2022-10-12 22:51:51+08:00:

Spartans were anything but ahead of their times. Most of the writing we have on Spartans were written by their rivals (Athenian nobility) whose driving motivation were:

I mean, that isn’t really true of Xenophon, who was hardly anti-democratic nor some major Athenian flag-waver. But then again, he’s also very realistic about Spartan military ability in the Hellenika, so… make of that what you will.

—– 876.2 —–2022-10-13 06:02:19+08:00:

Xenophon was still an Athenian general - i.e. a member of the aristocracy.

Yeah sure, but not an anti-democrat by any means. You’ve subtly shifted the goalposts here – we do have Athenian voices who give a realistic rather than a romantic view of Sparta.

877: Please help me identify this pottery marking, submitted on 2022-10-13 17:59:08+08:00.

—– 877.1 —–2022-10-13 22:01:43+08:00:

大清雍正 – Great Qing Yongzheng, indicating the empire (Qing) and the reign period (Yongzheng i.e. 1722-35) in which the piece purports to have been made.

878: Free for All Friday, 14 October 2022, submitted on 2022-10-14 19:00:09+08:00.

—– 878.1 —–2022-10-15 05:29:54+08:00:

Also 1960s movie Zulus apparently. No really, their war chant is literally ripped straight from the audio of Cy Endfield’s Zulu. They shout ‘uSuthu!’ when emerging from the forest.

879: Musashi (romance) and WWII, submitted on 2022-10-15 02:44:02+08:00.

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880: Why did the British lose the American War of Independence, according to the British in the late 18th and early 19th century?, submitted on 2022-10-15 22:06:58+08:00.

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881: How much has Ancient Chinese culture changed under the CCP?, submitted on 2022-10-16 12:32:02+08:00.

—– 881.1 —–2022-10-16 15:03:21+08:00:

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882: [Hobby Scuffles] Week of October 17, 2022, submitted on 2022-10-16 23:01:24+08:00.

—– 882.1 —–2022-10-17 00:51:47+08:00:

I finally got a new desk lamp, which means mini painting can resume… eventually.

—– 882.2 —–2022-10-17 16:44:50+08:00:

Last week’s thread (or the week before) saw a bit of discussion around the new Kenneth Branagh Poirot films, and one user asked why Murder on the Orient Express keeps being the one adapted instead of The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, which is an interesting enough question that I had a bit of a musing over. I suspect the answer is very simply that the nature of the twist works for the former much more easily on film. The main twist of Orient Express, that being that >!the murder was carried out by all twelve of the other passengers besides Poirot, the doctor, Bouc, and Elena!<, transfers easily to film because of the way the information is presented: you find things out as Poirot and Dr. Constantine do, and so the eventual reveal doesn’t rely on telling you that any prior information is outright wrong, even if there were some red herrings. By contrast, Roger Ackroyd relies on Dr. Sheppard, the book’s own narrator, not mentioning >!what he does in the ten minutes between Ackroyd receiving the letter at 8:40 and Sheppard leaving the office at 8:50, why he took 10 minutes to leave Fernly rather than 5, what exactly he did in the office after the body was discovered, and why he went to the Three Boars afterward (which he doesn’t even tell us as it happens; he only admits to it when he is asked about it the next day).!< Because of that, the impact of the discovery that >!Sheppard did it!< relies on the POV character missing out information by not writing it down as it happens. That’s a lot harder to transfer to film, and I’m unsurprised that ITV opted for a more conventional whodunnit format in their adaptation, even if I’m disappointed they didn’t try. There are plenty of unreliable narrator films of course, but with films you aren’t looking literally through the POV character’s eyes. That kind of missing info probably comes off more as contrivance by the filmmaker than an in-character decision or mistake like it would be in a narrated novel.

Anyway, just some thoughts.

—– 882.3 —–2022-10-18 00:06:28+08:00:

Robert Ackroyd, brother of the more famously murdered Roger.

—– 882.4 —–2022-10-18 18:49:40+08:00:

CRWBY is the fandom term for the production crew, and yes, it is ‘crewby’.

—– 882.5 —–2022-10-19 01:00:29+08:00:

So, out of sheer curiosity, which of Singapore’s 4+ main languages was the dub done in?

—– 882.6 —–2022-10-19 03:28:12+08:00:

They did actually adapt The Murder of Roger Ackroyd!

I know, and as noted, I suspect the difficulty of adapting the twist to film was what led them to instead choose the safer (read: more cowardly) option of a more conventional whodunnit story.

—– 882.7 —–2022-10-22 07:14:31+08:00:

Sure, but I don’t even think that’s what Malleon was saying – the issue was agreeing to hire her.

—– 882.8 —–2022-10-22 07:15:12+08:00:

That’s what got me – if Delutaya’s timeline is accurate, Mikeneko’s insinuations would have been around the time Delu debuted her Live2D model, and surely far from coincidental.

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